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Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2002 - 4:30 pm: | |
Is there a surefire way to tell the difference between the way a jake gobbles vs a longbeard's gobble? Is it mainly a "pitch" thing? |
maytom
| | Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2002 - 5:04 pm: | |
Yes, I think so. Seems to me that a mature bird being 3+ years, has a deeper, gutteral sounding gobble. Sometimes even jakes can fool you in thinking it's a mature bird!! I wouldn't bet the ranch on guessing who's who though!!! |
GN
| | Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2002 - 8:50 pm: | |
I have been fooled a lot. I think generally the jakes gobbles are shorter in length and do not have the "hollow" sound to them that the older birds get. Often it seems, if you hear a gobble and then sort of a second "chime in gobble" (shorter in duration than the lead gobble )from another bird right with the frist one, the second bird is a jake . I am one who thinks the subordiante birds and the jakes tend to be right on top ofthe high ridges in ppallachia frequently and away from some of the prime breeding/strutimg areas lower around fields etc. Off the top of my head, I have not seen a jake in the woods this spring in the eastern US....hard to believe but Ithink that is right...but I did hear some birds on the first weekend in TennI thought were jakes gobbling. |
Full Fan
| | Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2002 - 10:30 pm: | |
Not sure if you've seen any of his tapes or heard of him, but Kenny Morgan does a good job of explaining and detailing gobbling birds in my opinion. Of course some jakes have that broken gobble, but some can produce a full gobble that seems to be short in length as GN stated. Satellite birds (subordinate) do have that gutteral/hollow sound. The big boys, 5-6 year olds, have a different gobble in Kenny's opinion. He claims those birds have a real clear gobble. Says it sounds like putting marbles or rocks in a can and shaking it along with the typical sound of a gobble, but crisp. Hard for me to explain, it's been a while since I've seen the tape. I tend to listen to any man that has 500+ turks under his belt!
Here's Kenny's site. Not plugging, but man does he have an awesome clucking and purring call....The Friction Wood.
http://www.turkeycallers.com/ |
Coach
| | Posted on Monday, May 06, 2002 - 6:49 am: | |
I know I am not the best, but this year I have been fooled more than usual. Its seems the places I hunt this year have more Jakes gobbling and looking for hens! I wonder why. Someone may have gotten the old bird before I got there.
What have you seen?
Coach |
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