| Author | Message | ||
| swampgobbler870
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Well i guess remington bought hevi-shot, has anybody patterned any of these yet and with what gun/choke combo. is it april 13th yet!!!????? Lots of birds and tons of sign out here in sussex co. I think during deer season, i saw or heard birds just about every day | ||
| GN |
I thought Remington just bought a license to use hevi-shot for remington shells? I can tell you the hevi-shot will change a lot of turkey hunters shot preferences in the next few years. | ||
| maytom |
I've compared the Remington HV loads with the Winchester brand and Winchester beats it hands down. I haven't tried out Remingtons Hevishot version as yet, but it will have to beat out the Winchester 1 3/4oz HV load as well. | ||
| GN |
check me on this but I think the Alliant steel powders most are using in the hevi-shot loads produce faster velocity than the lead HV loads ..plus the hevi-shot is heavier than lead..now if you get a comparable(or better) pattern after some choke experimentation with your gun, you are going to have a pattern that is faster and hits harder in the same or better pattern . | ||
| HODY |
Maytom I'm with you, I believe very highly in the Winchester HV with my comp-n-choke I got at the NWTF silent auction a few years back. I understand what you are saying about heavier GN, but until the Winchesters fail me, I think I am sticking with what works. You know the old sayin......IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT!!!! | ||
| TScottW99
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I'm ready to try the remingtons... I shot the Winchesters last year at paper and could not get a decent pattern.. I still have a box. I have been using the federal premiums which pattern great with my gun.... I'm hoping to try the remington hevi-shot this year. It's like they say... every gun likes something differn't  | ||
| gn |
I am not suggesting people throw away what works for them. Just commenting that I think eventually the Hevi-shot loads will be the preferred loads for turkey hunters. It may not be this year or even next year, but the stuff really hits hard. I will probably go through part of the seaon with the federal 10 guage loads I have been using, as well, but I am going to try some ofthe HS reloads in 10 and 12 between then and now to see if I can get the right results in them... | ||
| turkeyscratch |
Just thought I'd pass this on. Last night in the fullstrut chatroom a friend of mine told me about some replies he got from enquiries to several gun and choke manufacturers about using hevi-shot in their products, then he forwarded their email replies to me. Every single one of them advised him against using hevi-shot in their guns or with their chokes!! Benelli, Remington and Winchester warned him about potential barrel damage and Hastings, Comp-n-choke and Undertaker said not to use it with any choke not designed for steel shot. Evidently most, if not all, of the turkey chokes are designed for lead shot. Maybe we should heed this advice. | ||
| turkeyscratch |
Anyone who wants to see the replies from the manufacturers, email me at turkeyscratch@earthlink.net and I'll forward them to you. | ||
| GN |
I guess I thought people knew/realized they where dealing with mostly steel shot components (powder, wads) for the hevi loads...thus a steel shot choke would probabaly work better...if I read your post corrctly, the warning is not to use the tight lead chokes, and is not to say do not shoot hevi-shot in our guns /tubes? Right?....frankly, I have been shooting hevi through an 870 improved cyl lead tube fro the duck season...with no scoring that I can see...now I am shooting hevi reloads, with a shot cup made specifiaclly for steel shot and alliant reload pwders, in a 1 1/8 oz load of five shot in a 2 3/4 inch hull ...the pattern is so good in this load I would not hesitate to use it turkey hunting , even in that light a shot load...but everybody should read up on this and make their own decisions...I am not sure I will use it all the time this year but I am going to shoot more paper between now and the season and plan to use hevi some during the season where I know I might be facing a longer-rANGE shooting likleihood(fields). Thanks for the input on the tight lead tubes though.... | ||
| gn |
Here is the site for the message board for hevi-shot , which contains a lot of discussion about choke tubes , loads, patterns, etc...if you want to look at it...again I really have no dog in this fight, other than passing on info....https://www.hevishot.com/hevishot.html | ||
| turkeyscratch |
We will only recommend steel shot compatable chokes for hevi shot, such as our High Flyer series. Our GT tubes are lead shot only. If you shoot hevi shot through tight tubes, sooner or later you will get a shell that won't compact properly in the choke causing you to do choke and or barrel damage Personal recommendation, stick with lead until you have to shoot non tox!! Thanks, Chuck The above is a cut&paste of a reply from Kicks. The GT tubes he's refering to are GOBBLIN' THUNDER. most of the other replies said basically the same thing. | ||
| turkeyscratch |
GN, That's all I'm doing too, passing on info. Actually, the reason the whole hevi-shot conversation got started last night was because I mentioned I was thinking about experimenting with some hevi-shot loads in my TK2000 this spring. After reading those replies I think I'll stick to copperplated. The TK has a pretty tight choke tube. I don't really know why I was considering it anyway, I hate to shoot much past 25 yds and at that range, or less, good ol' lead is all you need. | ||
| gn |
'Scatch...I agree | ||
| Old Dominion Tom |
Remington has a "Hevi-Shot Turkey Choke Tube" advertised on their website. It says it was developed for use with Hevi-Shot. It appears to be similar to their Super Full Turkey tube. Main difference is a .675 dia instead of a .665 dia. found in the lead super full tube. Hope this helps, Old Dominion Tom | ||
| Wingman |
And here I am trying to get one with a bow!!!!!!! For the FUN OF IT!!!!!! Sorry Talking about hunting and the equipment is almost as much fun as huntin, and the only thing we can do for the next couple of weeks!!!!!!!! | ||
| RF Cement |
Enjoyed this discussion. It made my mind up not to use the Hevi-Shot. Plus I can't see where it's worth 3 or 4 times the cost. | ||
| Rogerman |
At somebody suggestion, I went to the H-S message Board, and here is their take on hevishot in turkey chokes, for your consideration:"""""The Word on Chokes It is almost turkey season! We can't wait, and apparently lots of other folks can't wait either. Our buddy Dave Weimer called from Georgia to let us know that the right choke tube is a hot topic in the various chat rooms at the moment. Here is the straight scoop: We recommend that you stick with chokes rated for steel shot for any waterfowl hunting. This pretty much means skeet, improved cylinder (for shots over decoys), and modified chokes ( for pass shooting) when it comes to waterfowl. Anyway, you can "overchoke" HEVI-Shot™ pellets, and actually degrade your pattern. Turkey chokes are more complicated because our turkey loads, and Remington's turkey loads, are fully buffered and a bit slower than waterfowl loads. We still recommend shooting only a choke rated for modern steel shot. It just so happens that Remington makes a beauty, in their HEVI-Shot™ choke tube (information at 800.243.9700). However, lots of guys have shot HEVI-Shot™ shells through full turkey chokes, all the way down to 0.643 in 12-gauge (Randy Lewis of Tennessee). In our very limited samples, we didn't see ring bulge or barrel wear, but we have seen lead-only chokes peened out of shotguns. So, we don't recommend anything other than steel-rated chokes, and we disclaim any responsibility for anything that happens if you don't follow that recommendation. But finally, the best advice may be to pattern your gun with a few different choke tubes before you go after that gobbler. What can you get, and what do you think you need? You may well find that just about every pellet you shoot goes into a 10-inch circle at 40-yards with HEVI-Shot™ shells and chokes - and that ought to get you your bird in the field."""" BTW, this is a good board. |