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Big Bird
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 10:59 am:   

I am pretty new at this and have learned a lot from you guys this past year. I have another question for you: Last Sat I was hunting with a few guys who are as crazy about this as me but know even less if that is possible. We managed to bust up a flock of 10 gobblers. We spread out around the bust site and waited and waited and waited. I tried to call but I am not exactly sure I was making the right cluck. I tried a slow, low cluck sometimes with two slow, low yelps. Is that right? What would you do? We heard them moving around but they would not come in and they were completely silent. After about 2 1/2 hours it started to get dark and we had to head in. I have heard that they take a long time to get back together but since we heard a couple of them moving around I kind of thought I was not calling right. Thanks for all of your generous pointers and guidance.
turkey576
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 11:40 am:   

If you bust up a group of gobblers and they are older then you may have to wait for days. They seem not to be as dependent on each other as groups of mixed hens and jakes. I use Kee-Kees it works well in the fall.
HODY
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 2:24 pm:   

I believe most of you all would agree with me on this, Big Bird to call in a longbeard in the fall is harder than in the spring. Now if you bust up a flock of young birds it is fairly easy, and lots of fun, but calling back a flock of longbeards is tough because they do not always try to get back together right away. Not being there it is hard to say it was your calling, but dont take it personal because to me this is a most difficult task for even the big dogs like Freddy.
MTNBUK
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 7:36 pm:   

I've found that the next morning is the best time to get one of those longbeards to come back. Even then much patience is usually necessary. And very little calling. Haven't tried a kee-kee. I'll remember that one.
wingman
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 9:23 pm:   

Now two years ago in the fall I had a longbeard at about 50 to 75 yards out and he just would not come any closer. He would answer every call ( Called softly and sparingly) look my way but stood out there for two and a half hours till it got dark! I even tried some secret calls that have worked in the past nothing. Most fun I have ever had. I could see him the whole time.
Freddy McGuire (Vaturkey)
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 10:27 pm:   

Fall Longbeards are TOUGH... Sounds like you did all the right things they just wouldn't cooperate as so often happens. I have seen flocks of gobblers as anxious to get back together as young birds, but it doesn't happen often. Most likely, like everyone said, it's usually several hours if not days before they regroup. I would mark that spot on my map for this Spring though! ;o)
BRONZE BARON
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 12:32 am:   

Fall gobblers are indeed tough.When they get broke up,it might be days before they even try to regroup.I hunted a group of 5 this past fall that were never broke and some days they were like ghost.I would change my routine a little every day and call very sparingly with GOBBLER YELPS only.With 2 days left in our PA. season,I finally called the longbeards in and took one.It took me 2 weeks of hunting them everyday.I did one series of gobbler yelps (4 course yelps)and they came in SILENT without a peep.Time is something that you usually need a lot of when hunting fall gobblers,broken up or not.

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